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Confessions of a High Church Millennial

I have a confession to make. It will probably be surprising for many to hear from a millennial:

I am a high-church liturgy nerd.

For many of my 31 years in the church, I have been told that my generation is a group of moths attracted to the glitz and glamour of projections screens showing videos in church, electric guitars and drum kits playing the music we can hear on Christian radio and cool, hip preachers who speak “authentically.” And sure, I have been to my fair share of churches, campfires, and youth services that cater to the “youth.” I have even enjoyed them greatly!

Somewhere along the way, this has led to the assumption by everyone (and no one) that my generation’s desire is only for the new. And this desire is often held up along side our narcissistic tendencies to take selfies, post our dinner plans on twitter, and live in our parent’s basements.

It just so happens that these same lazy narcissistic millennials are currently the concern of so many church members. Churches spend a lot of energy worrying about what interests us and wondering why we don’t come to church (anymore).

I know millennials are not the first generation to be the object of the church’s and society’s attention. When I was a little, churches were trying to be contemporary then too… trying to attract boomers and their young families with 70s folk music. As a child of the 80s, my church had more than a few 30-40 something guys standing behind lecterns with guitars, singing special music that sounded like an Eagle’s song with Christian lyrics.

And then Generation X got its 15 minutes of attention…During my tween and teen years, the Gen-Xers were doing Friday night youth services once a month with songs from artists like Brian Doerksen, Petra, Amy Grant, and Third Day. The Gen-Xers, we were told, would come for this. As a teen watching this unfold, I hadn’t quite processed what it meant for the church to be so concerned with making sure 20 somethings stayed in church. I didn’t understand why Friday night youth services, token 20 somethings on church council and money for expensive sound systems and projectors was going to keep the young adults, just a little older than me, in church.

Yet, despite all the catering to what the young people supposedly want, what I do remember from church of my childhood is liturgy.

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When we were all together as a community, when we gave up as much as we could trying to cater to what will attract the youth, or appease the seniors, or keep the young families interested, or make the boomers happy, we did simple Lutheran liturgy. 

Now don’t get me wrong, it was low-churchly Lutheran liturgy.  Which is to say our worship felt a bit like eating vegetables; it was good for us, but no one really liked it. Or at least we acted like we didn’t like it.

Our worship was billed as being everything from “Bach to Rock,” but the liturgy was more of a timeless aspect of our worship. As a kid and then teen, I could feel the prayers, the liturgical songs, the actions of standing, sitting, praying, responding, receiving were starting to ingrain themselves in my very body. I remember myself starting to set the hymnbook down more and more. I would simply pray or sing or respond. The phrases like “And also with you” or “Thanks be to God” or “Amen” started to come naturally and unbidden.

Interestingly, our low church Lutheran liturgy, that felt like eating vegetables, connected our whole congregation much more deeply than any of the things that we did to attract different generations. Weirdly, we all liked it. We all shared in it. In fact, we came to the same worship service because of it. Liturgy doesn’t distinguish between generations. It’s kind of like how I don’t play Xbox with my grandma, and she doesn’t knit with me. But we both know how to sit down and share a family meal.

Liturgy ties us together, rather than emphasizing our personal or generational experiences. Liturgy is timeless and when we can get past whether we like the tunes or instruments playing them or not, we can realize that these things we do, and repeat together, are biblical, rooted in the ancient Church and are about God. In fact, liturgy at its best makes us forget it is liturgy and instead helps us see God in out midst.

In a recent blog post, Rachel Held Evans, who is an Evangelical trying out Episcopalian worship, writes:

I am folding laundry, its starched, orderly scent a sort of incense, as the hymn rises to my lips. 

“Glory to God in the highest, and peace to his people on earth. Lord God, heavenly King, almighty God and Father, we worship you, we give you thanks, we praise you for your glory…”

I can’t remember the rest of the words exactly, and the tune meanders a bit, so I improvise, prompting Dan to shout from the other room, “Hon?  You okay? You crying about something?” which happens just about every time I burst into spontaneous song because, apparently, my version of a joyful noise remains indistinguishable from a sob.

Still, I sing on.

“….For you alone are the Holy One, you alone are the Lord, you alone are da da da da la la la la.” 

It is a season of new songs.

(Read the rest here…)

Like me, she is a millennial and a Christian (if you haven’t discovered her blog, you are probably living under a rock). If the two of us were to sit down for coffee, I would tell her that this will only get worse (or better). Way worse.

When you become a liturgy person, all those familiar texts like the Gloria (which is what Rachel was singing) start to come to your mind like the baseball stats that so many dads seem to know – they come automatically. Worship starts to take on a rhythm and pattern that you can’t escape. You will eventually find that worship is something where you always know what is going to happen next, or that your body knows what to do next. The things that change start to rise to the surface and catch your attention. After the familiar Kyrie and Gloria, which are the same week after week, the collect and scripture readings, which change each week, stand out. Liturgy helps you to identify the new and changing things of worship, by keeping you grounded with the constants.

And still, it gets worse. When you are a liturgy person, you can show up for Anglican, Episcopalian, Roman Catholic or Lutheran worship and generally know what is going on. You might even find yourself singing songs you have never sung before because you already know the words.

In my development as a liturgy person, my low-church, eating-our-vegetables, experience of liturgy as a child and teen morphed and grew into something more as I went to university and then to seminary. As I learned more and more about the meaning and history of the symbols, I fell in love with the richness of it all. I became high-church. I became a liturgy nerd.

And I am going to make a bold claim because of this.

Liturgy can engage the young people.

I am not saying that non-liturgical worship is wrong, or won’t “attract” millennials. In fact, I know many of my generational cohort who have abandoned liturgy for praise bands. But like Rachel Held Evans shows, some are coming the other way. Contemporary worship is not something I am looking to critique, but rather I am suggesting that all those criticisms of liturgical worship is simply unfounded.

I am a millennial and I am drawn to tradition, to wrote prayers, to words passed on to me from generations before. The symbols and ritual actions point to God in ways that nothing else has in my experience, not sunsets or Christian radio, not preachers with graphic T-shirts and 45 minute sermons. I don’t think I am alone. I am not saying that every millennial wants what I want. Liturgy is what it is, it doesn’t really sell itself. And I think many of my generation are not interested in being sold faith.

So to my liturgically minded brothers and sisters in faith: Let’s stop worrying about being something we are not. Let’s not try to be contemporary like the Baptists down the street while still somehow still being us. And for heaven’s sake, lets not do liturgy like it is eating vegetables. Let’s see liturgy as the beautiful meal of diversity and rich flavours that it can be.

We will never be the mega-church contemporary worship that we think all the millennials have left for. And the narrative that we need to be that to “attract” the young people only shows them that we have an identity crisis, and that what we are, is not worthy of our youth. I am sure many millennials find that off-putting… I do, and I am a pastor in a denomination with an identity crisis.

Instead, let’s be what we are. Let’s use the tools that we know how to use. Let’s preach the Gospel and point to God at work in our world with the liturgy we have been given.

And remember, as surprising as it may be to hear that one millennial is a high church liturgy nerd… it might be even more surprising that there are a lot more out there.


Are you a liturgy nerd? Do you think liturgy can engage millennials? Share in the comments, on the Facebook Page: The Millennial Pastor or on Twitter: @ParkerErik

As usual, thanks to my wife, Courtenay for her edits and insight. Follow her at @ReedmanParker on Twitter.

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53 thoughts on “Confessions of a High Church Millennial”

  1. Another thoughtful article Erik. But there’s something about that I have to disagree with. Throughout, you seem to make the argument that anything other than a traditional or mainline form of worship is, by default, not liturgical.
    As you know, I’m not a self-described ‘liturgy geek’, but I do know liturgy. The word itself means ‘work of the people’, so really, any ordered worship experience is liturgy. The non-denominational church down the street with drums and projection screens is strictly liturgical if they have their songs, scripture reading, prayers, and sermon in the same order week to week. And, to be honest, I’ve never been to a church that doesn’t follow an order like that week to week. I’ve never been to a church that started with a sermon and ended with a call to worship.
    I agree that there is something about the repetition and the rhythm of liturgy that speaks deeply to people’s faith. I agree that there is a comfort to knowing what comes next. But traditional liturgy is not the only liturgy. The people who gather together to worship should find their own voice as to how to enact that liturgy. For some it will be high-church traditional mainline worship. For others, it is guitars. For some it will be a new version of the historical language and ritual that has been passed down through generations of Christians from the early church. That is in fact how many churches are trying to be who they are.
    What I do wholeheartedly agree with is that, whatever liturgy you follow (or lead), do it well.

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    1. Thanks for the comment Jason! And I would agree with what you say about the ordos or liturgies of other traditions, and I am certainly not trying to say other orders that some churches follow are not valid. ‘The Liturgy’ that Christians have been using since the 1st century, and the texts and that we have been using since 3rd or 4th century is what I am talking about when I say “liturgy”, but I would totally agree that it is not the only order out there.

      I don’t want to make this about The Liturgy vs. “Non-Liturgical Worship”, although I know some are reading my post that way given comments on Facebook and twitter. I am more concerned about the meme or narrative among mainline liturgical folks that “non-liturgical” is what young people want, or Nickelodeon liturgy is what we young people want.

      I don’t know of too many Lutheran congregations that are going to do Mennonite or Baptist liturgy very well, and vice-versa. It doesn’t mean we can’t learn or borrow from each other, but we can’t forget where we come from. I would like a lot of Lutherans to do their liturgy well before expanding to add other elements.

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      1. Jason & Erik,

        I resonate with much of what you both have written here. I do believe that most/all churches have “a liturgy.” Many modern Evangelical or non-denominational churches (such as mine) have just called it a “service order.” The important thing to note here is the age-old principle of “lex orandi, lex credendi,” which literally means “the rule of prayer is the rule of belief/faith,” or loosely, “the way we worship [corporately] shapes the way we believe.” What we have to recognize is that worship forms us as believers, and this an incredible responsibility on church leaders. I’m not necessarily saying the modern “service orders” are inherently bad, or that “The Liturgy” is better, I’m just suggesting that we have to be aware of what kind of worshipers we shape by the way we worship together, and maybe by focusing throughout the last period of history on how to attract the 20s generation of that time to church, we’ve altered/subtracted/changed the historic elements of how we shape believers so much so that it may be the very reason that young believers want no part in churches have to offer. Everything has meaning, and the things we do together in worship and the order we do them matters. (On a side note, I truly believe that liturgy has little to do with musical style.)

        Just for some context, I’m a millennial Tech Arts pastor at a medium/large Independent Baptist church that is in process of beginning my path towards the Anglican Church.

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      1. Broader than just Roman Catholicism. There is a tradition which brings together the fullness of sign and symbol with contemporary or folk musical expressions. That brings the assured supernatural action of God in the sacraments with ecstatic supernatural action of God by the Holy Spirit. High Mass with prayer ministry and space for spiritual gifts and a worship band.

        Not saying it is ‘better’. Just that it is there as a meeting space between different expressions.

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    1. I had a friend in bible college that became a Charismatholic. It always sounded intriguing to me. I’m a Wesleyan minister that was a lay-minister in the ACoC before that. I never had any problems with the liturgy, although there were times that the choral performance centrism rivalled any worship band focus I’ve seen in Evangelical churches. The issue I parted ways with them on was theological. Most mainline churches tend to swing more liberal than I’m comfortable with. Then again, while I’d enjoy coffee with RHE, we’re never going to see eye to eye theologically. I was only in the Anglican church for 3 years, but 5 years since I moved on, I’ve still got the kyrie and gloria in my head.

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  2. Interesting reading this one, as some one who was brought up on set written liturgy for every service, yes I can recall large chunks from memory. However it has also led to me being able to led extempore prayers – and especially the Great Prayer of Thanksgiving – as I have been well marinaded in the words. Just thinking as one millennial to another.

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    1. Hmmm… Interesting. We had a seminary professor who could do this very well, he would compose Eucharistic prayers as he went, and they contained all the essential elements. He could do this because he knew the liturgy not just by wrote, but the structure, very well.

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  3. I agree on many levels, as a fellow liturgy-supporting Millennial Lutheran. I would just take a minor exception to the implied notion that liturgy shouldn’t change (“the familiar Kyrie and Gloria, which are the same week after week”; “words passed on to me from generations before”). Lutheran liturgy has many “official” settings, and my church uses some beautiful settings that borrow from traditions around the world. The order, format, and ideas are the same, but it’s different tunes, different words, and different ways of expressing the ideas that are rotated on a seasonal basis. To me, that’s an important way to keep things fresh and prevent each Sunday from being something you do from memory and never think about.

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  4. I’ve been preaching this for years. Young people crave mystery and a sense of something larger than themselves. We all spend all week looking at a screen and with our ear buds in. The last thing I want, and many want in church is another hour with badly run technology.

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  5. Something about these discussions makes me want to re-read Kierkegaard on the Aesthetic. I suppose we have to decide what we’re going to do when we worship, but it seems like way too much ink and time has been spent on the question of “worship styles.”

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  6. Your article is really interesting. I am a little bit ahead of you in age. My whole life I have been ping-ponging back and forth between high liturgical worship and non-liturgical worship.

    I’m a UM PK, so my dad’s style of worship was what I grew up with. He preferred a relaxed liturgical format. In high school I became involved in a large non-denom mega church (early 90’s). It was devoid of religious symbols and had no common liturgy. I found it refreshing at the time. However, by the time I got to college and on my own, I started to long for the seasons of the church to be recognized. So I spent Advent and Lent in high liturgical churches and the rest of the year I would attend non-liturgical churches.

    As I entered Seminary, I started to be drawn more and more into liturgical worship. I was fascinated with the history and the rhythm it provided to the service and to the year as a whole. The more I learned about ancient liturgies the more I became consumed by them and I started to introduce them to my churches. I went through 3 appointments of decent tenure with this mentality. This reached its pinnacle when I went to Wesley for my D.Min. and spent morning and evening every day at the National Cathedral for three years. Then most recently I was appointed to a start a new congregation within a church that was intended to be non-litrugical. I was confused as to why I was being appointed here, but I followed God’s lead.

    Since we have launched this congregation I have rediscovered non-liturgical worship and my heart has fallen in love again with the freedom, the opportunities for individual expression, and even the neo-liturgical order that enters into a service like this completely unbeknownst to everyone involved.

    The thing is, when it comes down to it, I am in love with both styles of worship and I am never completely satisfied in either, and least satisfied when blending is forced. A perfect Sunday for me is being able to experience quality high liturgical worship then enter into another worship experience that is free flowing, and allows me to individually encounter God.

    As a pastor however, I don’t see the numeric evidence that liturgical worship is drawing in younger folk. Oh, sure, every now and then, but on the whole I’m looking out a an aging group of people that will not be present in 15 years. How do we change that? In the end I don’t believe its much about style of worship. Its a hell of a lot more about relationship and I still don’t think we have figured that out yet.

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    1. Dealing with you last point, I think that relationship have to do with accepting who we are as individuals and congregations. And no isn’t necessarily about style of worship, but as I said in the article if we worship like we are apologizing for who we are and think that people will only come if we become something else, we have a problem.

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  7. I’m older than you, but it was in college I began attending an Episcopal church. It felt “safe” to me, in ways that previous Evangelical churches were not. I loved the liturgy and the timing. I loved that I knew what was coming next, and frankly I saw it as a much more balanced church than others I had known. My experience with churches with worship bands was that many of the pastors seemed to have the attitude of, “Let’s get this stuff over and out of the way so you can hear what I have to say.” In a liturgical service, “this stuff” IS the service, not something to get out of the way.

    I’m talking past tense. Because of complications, my husband and I attend a Lutheran church. It fits us fairly well. Great pastor, wonderful congregation. I miss high liturgy. Reading the Gloria you wrote above, my head is instantly there, and finishing it. When we are able to attend an Episcopal/Anglican church, it is always coming home for me.

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  8. An Episcopal friend alerted me to this post on Facebook. This is spot-on. I belong to the largest parish in the ELCA Rocky Mountain Synod, Bethany in Cherry Hills Village, CO. We are in an interregnum right now, our senior pastor having left to head the big 25th anniversary fund drive for ELCA. And it couldn’t have happened soon enough., During his eight-year incumbency we went from MOTR Lutheran liturgical worship to happy-clappy and a large percentage of the membership left. We have a wonderful interim senior pastor and things have taken a dramatic turn for the better. Instead of “McDonald’s communion” where we only heard the verba but other elements were introduced into the service that were not liturgical but were accompanied by lots of applause, we’re back to weekly communion with full liturgy, even a short Eucharistic prayer. And the applause has virtually disappeared as we begin to rediscover the awe of worship in God’s house in the orderly, liturgical way and the people are truly involved in the work of the people.

    It’s ironic in a way because the church was torched by an arsonist in 1984 and was completely built new from the ground up following a design by a Roman Catholic architect that was a prototype for other similar RC churches. We have the best facilities for liturgical worship in the Synod, bar none, and a fantastic music program that is coming into its own once again.

    I’m hopeful that our choice for the next incumbent will be a pastor who has an appreciation and desire for high-church liturgy. And while I took a sabbatical from happy-clappy I met several millennial pastors who were into high-church liturgy with growing parishes who appreciated the mystical, the omnipotence of God and also understood the theology of the Cross. All that works together in my opinion.

    Thanks for this excellent piece! My late brother-in-law was a pastor in Towner, ND and we’d often drive up to Winnipeg for the day. I remember dinners of Lake Winnipeg goldeye — smoked as I recall. Maybe I’ll get up there again and we can meet for a beer of two.

    If you’re interested, our web site is http://www.bethany-denver.org. We’ve quite a ways to go but we’re on the road!

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    1. If you are in Winnipeg it would be great to have a beer, indeed! Thanks for sharing this story! My last synod, the Synod of Alberta and the Territories has a good cross boarder relationship with the Montana Synod.

      After seeing Bethany’s website, the congregation reminds me of second parish! Seems like a happening place! And Denver is beautiful city, one of the few US cities I could consider living in.

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  9. I recall survey somewhere that said our generation is divided right down the middle in terms of liturgical worship. A lot of people I know in our generation were converted to the faith by the high church tradition of worship

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  10. I, too, am an high-church millennial. I am also a liturgical nerd, and have extensively studied millennials. Millennials — as any demographic — are not monolithic; some love pumpkin spice lattes and some can’t stand Starbucks (I’m craving a PSL at the moment…). Anyone that attempts to say, “this will attract millennials,” doesn’t have a clue what they’re talking about. “This” might attract a segment within the larger demographic, but nothing will attract all millennials.

    I can tell you what attracts me: fullness.

    Worship — liturgical or non — is replete with signs and symbols of God’s redemptive power in the world. When worship leaders — lay & clergy — do not attend to giving these signs and symbols the fullness that they deserve, worship is worse than just vegetables. I’m United Methodist, but I’ve been church hopping recently to see what other congregations in my area are doing. I went to one ELCA congregation recently where the pastor, a very gifted preacher and public speaker, read the eucharistic liturgy in such a rushed and monotone voice that I can only guess that someone forgot to put any commas or periods in the text. If she had brought the joy and passion she used while preaching into the eucharist, it might have been one of the best services I have been to.

    I used to attend an ECUSA congregation. The key organizing principle under their liturgical practice was joy; as we gather around the table we celebrate and give great thanks to God for God’s continued engagement in salvation’s history. It was truly a celebration. It was full.

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  11. Hmmm… Why do we worship? Not for self-satisfying liturgy or self-indulgent music. That’s for sure. It’s to give our whole hearts to the One who gave His all for us. In the entire article, there was not one mention of His name: Jesus.

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  12. I am not a millenial, but I’ve lately become interested in revisiting my Episcopal roots, having left the denomination thirty years ago. While I am not liberal enough to tithe to a liberal Episcopal church with its commitment to reproductive choice, etc., the service at the Anglican church I recently visited moved me to tears. The service was exactly the same as when I was a child, and I remembered every note and every word of the sung liturgy. It was spectacular. It was reverent. It was robust and joyous.

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  13. For the majority of my life, I attended mainstream evangelical churches that were considered nondenominational. In my late teens I began to realize that I wanted something more out of worship, that the lights and rock and style that I had grown up with was not what drew me to church. Having no idea what liturgy was, I didn’t know what I wanted. In my sophomore year of college, I discovered the wonders of an Anglican service. Despite being very confused and a bit weirded out by my first time there, I continued to come. I eventually realized that the structure, historical connections, and I guess reverence is the word, was what I was looking for. I’ve now been at this little Anglican parish for about a year and was confirmed a few months ago. What I found at this church was what had been in a sense missing at the churches I grew up in.

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  14. Thanks for this. It’s what I’ve been ranting about for ages as a fellow millenial-ish Episcopalian, now priest….I’ve lost count of the number of high church young liturginerds I met, but our numbers are many. And, you’re right, there’s no one form of church that appeals to all of any generation so you’ll always have your lovers of guitar mass, and of rock band mass (but even those defy generational bounds), and trad liturgy. The Church needs to learn not to ditch the old for the new. That’s what’s up.

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  15. Thanks for this. I am an Episcopalian, recently ordained as a priest, and a twenty-something….people keep proclaiming from on high (as they have done for every generation) that this is what this generation wants…and you know what….love of liturgical style is not bound by one’s generation….you’ve got lovers of rockbands, and of guitar mass, and of high church liturgy, liturginerds of all kinds and generations. But I’ll tell you what, there is amassing quite a number of high church folks in their 20 somethings lately, I’m seeing a pendulum swing, especially as I lead worship for twenty-somethings as part of a college ministry. Older folks will often claim that young folks who like the high smells and bells liturgy is just a passing phase, and a mere fascination, but I am seeing it as more than that. We gotta stop throwing out the old in exchange for the new, and stop trying to be a mega church, we never have been, never will be. [end rant]

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  16. Having grown up in a southern state southern Baptist church I never saw the liturgical in any way shape or form unfortunately. To be sure my home church was traditional in the sense of rural Baptist worship – hymns, choir, organ, piano, sermon etc. and there was a type of liturgy though no one would have used that word. I to went through the contemporary mega-church thing and nearly bought into it hook-line-sinker and had it not been for a very sensible SBC brother who saw what was really behind some of that I probably would still be in that mode.

    Michael Spencer (aka The Internet Monk), who passed away several years ago, was probably the one person who really turned me back around to see a more liturgical approach to worship and really introduced me to the seasons of the church year, the idea of communion more than 4 times a year among other things. I knew deep down somewhere that I wasn’t satisfied with church as I had known it and the times I had been to liturgical churches I knew that there was a definite interest on my part and add to that my being an organist with a passion for the instrument and its music and the majesty of congregational hymn singing accompanied by the organ…… well the rest is history. The church I was playing at when I began to change my thinking on this was moving towards trying to become contemporary and I found that I was not the least amused with the idea and the pastor was not pleased with my reevaluation of worship either – needless to say I didn’t stay there very long afterwards.

    I’ve been fortunate these last couple of years to play the organ (nice 3 manual pipe organ) in a downtown Baptist church that follows the Christian church year/seasons and is much more traditional (sometimes liturgical) in terms of how worship services are done. While not the high church talked about in this very good article, it’s refreshing to know that there are still Baptists who know and have an appreciation for the more traditional/liturgical approach to worship and I’ve found that I’m not really interested any longer in the trendy mega church type of worship service.

    I will say that in my church we have seen a renewed interest by younger folks (millennials etc.) and think there is definitely a niche of folks of all ages who are looking for more traditional/liturgical type worship churches.

    Lastly, folks…..churches…… take seriously this one thing that was said in the article – please be who you are – what you are and quit trying to be like some other church in your town/city. Do what you do and do it well whether it is liturgical/traditional or blended/contemporary………quit trying to be something you’re not!!

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  17. You might also be interested in novelist Anne Rice’s spiritual autobiography (Called Out of Darkness.). In addition to the compelling liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church, she was drawn back to the church by the visual images she remembered from her childhood, particularly the icons. I, too, can describe every single stained glass window from my childhood church, and the images provide as much comfort and joy as the liturgy. The visual aspect of worship made me feel like I was in a special place, set apart from the world temporarily. Today, the screens with high-tech videos and hymn lyrics make me feel like I am in a business meeting.

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  18. I think high liturgy church leaves folks feeling like they have been to “something”, rather than just a “meeting of Christians”. I also like that an ordered service leaves less room for improvisation — especially in pastoral prayers which can turn into “second sermons”. There is a comfort in “routine” at least one time a week. Church seems like a good place for that

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  19. Totally a liturgy nerd (but slightly older, as an X-er). I always have to take pains to explain that I don’t disapprove of praise and worship services–they just feel like a dessert to me without the meal. I enjoy the communal experience of chant and response and the sounds of the words. Glad to see that I am not the only one.

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  20. Reblogged this on K.C. Wahe and commented:
    “Liturgy is timeless and when we can get past whether we like the tunes or instruments playing them or not, we can realize that these things we do, and repeat together, are biblical, rooted in the ancient Church and are about God. In fact, liturgy at its best makes us forget it is liturgy and instead helps us see God in our midst.”

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  21. Yes, for the Eucharist, there is a pattern, often described as GATHERING – WORD – MEAL – SENDING. This remains the SAME, but there are also VARIATIONS —- the “Gloria” or “This is the Feast” or another hymn of praise, a more penitential expression during Lent, great festivity during Christmas and Easter, the Nicene or Apostles’ Creed.. . . The OT Lesson, Epistle, Gospel, the Sermon, plus the specifics of hymnody are different every Sunday. Yes, I am liturgical and have written about it, but liturgy has BOTH sameness AND variety.

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  22. I just hated youth group as a pk. Anything that smacks of it turns me off. As a Presbyterian we use liturgical elements loosely, but it’s enough to connect one with tradition. I wonder if young people who’s parents are all divorced are maybe drawn to the stability of liturgy and the fact it isn’t a cutting edge (20 years ago) experience that feels aimed at a different kirk cobain Jesus generation.
    I think the really thing though is we never should have let worship styles break our communities like it did. Most people that get uppity on it I have literally heard say things like singing makes me feel good but I don’t like the praying and preaching… Christian flunkies they are..

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  23. I’m with yah! I didn’t grow up with the Lutheran liturgy… I grew up PCUSA. (And I did a lot of church hopping in college, where I spent a lot of time in traditions with more charismatic and/or contemporary influences in worship, which I enjoy, too!) But I definitely have come to love the high Lutheran liturgy at the congregations in which I serve… And I’m finding that many of the youth and young adults I work with love it, too!

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  24. Liturgy is a trip to Grandma’s house. It is familiar. It is comfortable. It is timeless. It appeals to all. It is a memory of what is, what was and what will always be. It tells me that I am part of a never ending stream of life and worship. It tells me I am part of a never ending path of faith. It assures me that I am part of a universal family.

    Liturgy is not entertainment. It’s not dinner theater or stage show. It requires no musical accompaniment.

    Liturgy enjoins fellowship. Liturgy is love.

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